Mr Fluffy houses have had a huge impact on the Canberra community. Jum Wallner grew up in one of them and at age 54 was diagnosed with mesothelioma. This is the story of how he, his brother and his friend James O’Loghlin campaigned to get two governments to co-operate to take care of Mr Fluffy victims. It's also a broader story about the power of optimism, friendship and learning how to become an accidental activist. As we face other community challenges, join James O’Loghlin for a timely conversation about how to galvanise action and influence government while retaining humour and a sense of what matters most in life. Hosted by Frank Bongiorno.